Kentucky's 1st Televised Gubernatorial Debate (2015)

Nobody soiled Kentucky's bed during the first televised gubernatorial debate, so that's a victory, in of itself. For now.

“Kentucky could be so much greater than what we are right now on so many fronts.”

~Matt Bevin

Kentucky! We actually had ourselves a good ol' discussion about the myriad issues we are faced with... AND, it was cordial! Specifically, Drew Curtis, looking all Presidential, with the two lesser opponents flanking him, won the debate, but overall, Kentucky was the winner.

“I've been supported by the NRA in the past and I'm supportive of sportsman issues.”

~Jack Conway

“So much of what comes out of your mouth Jack is absolutely made-up. I've never once called for anything to go to zero in auditing it. You just literally just make up lies on the fly.”

~Matt Bevin

Jack Conway said that Frankfort is looking at a $219 Million dollar surplus for the next budget cycle (next year?). Drew Curtis says that they can only claim a surplus if they count the money they collected by raiding the Teacher's Retirement fund.

“The Recession is Coming! The Recession is Coming!”

~warns Kentucky's Independent candidate for Governor, Drew Curtis

The Prophecy of Drew Curtis: If the unfunded teacher pension liability isn't solved, Kentucky will be bankrupt in 3 years. We don't have any money, we're going to have even less money, and plus, there's an oncoming Great Recession #2 coming, and Kentucky is going to need to weather the storm.

“It was never about clerks. It's about whether everybody in our society is entitled equal justice under the law.”

~Jack Conway, on Gay Marriage

“Hubba hubba hubba... who do you trust, who do you trust?”

~Matt Bevin's closing speech

No matter what, if Drew, Matt, Jack, or Blackii win's Kentucky's Governorship, Kentucky will be led by a balding/receding hairline middle-aged white male, so for all white misogynist supremacists everywhere, Kentucky's gubernatorial race is already a victory. So white misogynist supremacists can just chill the fuck out, and the balding/receding hairline stalwart industry lobbyists also have nothing to worry about... so, victory for Rogaine, and middle-aged male paleface pinko gringos.

“Without a doubt, it's been proven to work. The science bears it out, and that's all I need to see.”

~Drew Curtis, on a statewide needle exchange program

Blackii Whyte and the legalization of marijuana movement were both losers... Blackii needs to get on stage, he needs to elbow his way into the debate, into the foray, because even if the “Top 3” elbow him back out, it'll look like he's a fighter, which is good. Likewise, Heather Curtis should elbow her way to the Lieutenant Governor's debate coming up... if she can't make it, she needs to hold a separate event... or get arrested trying to go to the debate... or, best idea, Heather Curtis should get a ticket to go as an “audience member”, and if the cops arrest her, or try to intimidate her away, she'll win... a later lawsuit, or the media exposure of KSP wrestling with a Lieutenant Governor candidate... overnight, Heather Curtis would be an American household name, instant notoriety... Political candidates have power during campaigns, and many times, that's why folks run for office... for that amplifying bullhorn, for that bully pulpit.

“We come from opposite sides. She's more liberal than I am... I am more strategy-oriented, and she's more operationally oriented.”

~Drew Curtis, on Heather Curtis

“I haven't won a debate with [Elizabeth Conway, my spouse] for 17 years.”

~Jack Conway

Jack Conway said he's really concerned about the Teacher Pension crisis, and a big part of it is because Kentucky teachers aren't able to get Social Security... says Jack. Matt Bevin claims that Kentucky's teachers can get on Social Security, so...

Matt Bevin's healthcare death panels will be using “1115 waivers”, with “CMS”, to ask for “a block grant”... or something. Bottom line is, Medicaid is dead, and Matt Bevin will be there to choke it to death, drowning that ObamaCare/BeshearCare/RomneyCare baby in a bathtub of gay people's tears.

Matt Bevin is against PPP to build up Brent Spence. He's against tolls, and for private companies to get their hands into infrastructure projects. Matt Bevin is a different kind of Republican. Fascism, according to FDR and Mussolini (the founder of fascism), was when corporations and government became one, when they fused together... government is only useful to the people when they are able to stand up to bigger, more powerful interests, such as bankers, corporations, terrorists, etc. When government turns into corporatism, that's when we have fascism... unmitigated, genuine, authentic fascism. Matt Bevin is against fascism, and Jack Conway is in favor of it, as is, and of continuing it.

Unless we're talking about Unions, then Conway is for liberation, and Bevin is for fascism. Who is more authoritarian? All of them are equally authoritarian. They're all fascists in that sense. Lol

Jack Conway has women surrounding him on all sides. That's why he chose Sannie Overly, a strong and beautiful political woman, in order to keep those other bitches in their place. The dynamic between Jack's wife and Sannie Overly would be some great drama for Kentucky's sensational media over Kentucky's first family. In fact, any of those relationships for the other candidates would work as well... Kentucky needs a great royal family.

Drew Curtis will open a “line of credit” in order to solve the state teacher pension crisis, and Matt Bevin said that is just buying one credit card in order to pay off another credit card.

“Do any of you out there trust the people in Frankfort to tap into a credit card at your expense? We're sticking it to the future. It's just another variation of bonding.”

~Matt Bevin, on Drew Curtis's state pension plan

Matt Bevin's idea to allow gay marriage licenses to be issued, only without Kim Davis's name, was a compromise that would have prevented the carnival surrounding Kim Davis. He is right about that, and that's apparently been “the solution” to this mess.

“I believe in Kentucky.”

~Matt Bevin

Jack Conway did cry about prosecuting all of those gay cases... his excuse for not being anti-gay marriage anymore is because Jack is fiscally conservative, to save money...

Drew Curtis thought that both Jack and Matt were wrong: Jack is wrong to not prosecute gays, and Kim Davis was wrong to not issue gay marriage certificates. It's very in the middle of the road, unprincipled... MLK said that extremism isn't the problem, but what kind of extremist you are... a good one, or a bad one... MLK also pointed out that everything Hitler did was legal, and MLK was arrested like 50 times, so what is legal versus what is moral isn't always one and the same.

“If the rule of law isn't upheld, society falls apart at the seams.”

~Drew Curtis

Who mentions the “Rule of Law”? Somebody who still believes in democratic institutions, that's who.

Matt Bevin may just say fuck it, and cut pensions for everybody. That would save the Commonwealth of Kentucky, the state itself, as a whole, plus, it would also save Kentucky taxpayers a ton of money.

Jack Conway is against vouchers. He doesn't want alternative choices for 4 year old Kentuckians, nor does he want their parents to have any control over their own children's own education. Jack Conway says no to charter schools, and Matt Bevin says yes to charter schools. On Charter Schools, both Matt Bevin and 2-term Democratic President Barack Obama agree on. Bevin and Obama are basically bosom buddies when it comes to charter schools.

Apparently being “agnostic towards coal” means that you have strong opinions about “it”. When we say “coal”, are we talking about just the rock, or the entire coal industry? I ask, because those aren't the same.

Drew Curtis said that if solar and wind power, or any other alternative energy source, can produce electric at 4 cents a kilowatt hour, then Drew will accept that energy medium as a serious competitor to coal, but for now, for Curtis, coal is king. Interestingly, my electric bill charged me 10 cents a kilowatt hour, so that's a 200% markup... electric companies can make electric for 3 or 4 cents a kilowatt hour, then how come having all of this goddamned surphuric black rock bottom electric prices doesn't help out residential customers? It's because coal companies only care about the bottom line, just like goddamned vampire blood sucking corporation out here. Sucking coal company dick only helps the fat cat CEO owners, usually foreign, and not the unionless workers, nor the overgouged customers.

“I won't sell them laws.”

~Drew Curtis, on the reason why the coal industry doesn't invite him to secret forums

“I've got 9 children, for crying out loud.”

~Matt Bevin's answer to being in favor of early childhood education

Jack Conway is going to miss Joe Gerth's beautiful little smiling face, and Matt Bevin is sad to see a fawning media figure leaving Matt to having to promote himself by himself. Are the media and politicians wedded to each other, or opposed to each other? Jack Conway thought Rene Murphy was the best journalist in Kentucky, but perhaps he said that because she was the one who asked the question. Drew Curtis dissed Rene Murphy, to her face, when he picked Bill Bryant, a white man just to the side of Rene, instead.

Both Jack Conway and Drew Curtis were in favor of a statewide needle exchange system, so, heroin needles for everybody! Just kidding. Heroin needles are for the junkies only.

Matt, Jack, and Drew were all for the regulation of drones AND for giving ex-felons their voting rights back.

Matt Bevin is right about “show me your tax returns” being a political ploy. Bevin referenced that tactic being used against John Y. Brown, which was impressive that he'd know that. Matt Bevin has lived in Kentucky for most of his life. Heather Curtis was born in Minnesota, and says she's from Iowa on her facebook page.

Drew Curtis invited everybody in Kentucky to visit his living room, and he said his kids are “kinda cool”, implying that they're messy as shit, leaving their trainsets strewed all over the goddamned place! Pick this shit up! Now!

Blackii Effing Whyte would have kicked the War on Drugs question out of the park. Blackii Effing Whyte is in favor of the legalization of marijuana, as well as wanting to tax the churches.

Hating gays is callous, but kicking folks off of healthcare is criminal. It's premeditated murder.

Energy and Environment Cabinet... Drew Curtis said that the Energy and Environment Cabinet should die a slow death, because, fuck it, we're broke, and a huge major recession is coming. Jack Conway agreed. So did Matt Bevin. For Matt Bevin, it was all about expanding that manufacturing base, to get more jobs for the 1 million Kentucky poors. And besides, fuck the Energy and Environment Cabinet... am I right? What has Energy or Environment ever done for anybody?

Jack's mental health problem: the Bill Clinton complex. He wants everybody to love him. It's okay Jack. I feel your pain.

Jack Conway wants more cops, more psychopathic violent fascist gunthugs, to arrest your kids, maybe shoot them, if they don't obey orders, running wild on the streets. The “Kentucky way” is shoving 4 year old Kentucky children into school buildings, to brainwash them that any ol' bossy authority figure is worthy of respect, so they rat on their pothead parents, etc.

“They have a war on the streets.

They have a war in the Middle East.

They don't have a War on Poverty.

But they do have a War on Drugs,

So the police can bother me.”

~Tupac, 1994

Does Matt Bevin have something on his tax returns that he doesn't want Kentuckians to see? He's rich, right, like a hedgefund manager, or something. I'm think I'm going to take a tour of Drew Curtis's living room. And look at his tax returns.

Matt Bevin, his wife, his Black Lieutenent Governor/campaign running mate, her husband all have carry-concealed cards, and carry guns... You never know which one of these crazy Kentucky assholes might just start popping off... gotta stay strapped the whole time. The whole goddamned crew does.

Matt Bevin says that moving to a “Defined Contribution” plan for all new hires is the solution to Kentucky's state pension crisis. Jack Conway said he understood what ARC stood for before the campaign.

Matt Bevin isn't calling for everybody to get a 401K plan, though, I'm not sure why not. Drew Curtis says that there's not enough money to do so.

Drew Curtis made a joke about how Kentucky law makes all public officials swear that they've never been in a duel. Lol Oh Drew Curtis... will you never change?

“You've never worked in the real world. You hide behind your political jobs.”

~Matt Bevin, on Jack Conway

Matt Bevin wanted to have more diversity on the board of the University of Louisville, but Jack Conway will have plenty of Blacks on UofL's board by June 2016, so no worries there. Drew Curtis will too. Matt Bevin is great at throwing out smokescreen attacks... like the Jefferson Davis statue debacle, or the Black folks on UofL's board, etc., when really, his bigotry, against gay folks, his austerity, drug testing everybody, ending Passport and Kynect, would hurt all poor folks, including Black folks. It's also the very reason he chose Janean Hampton as his running mate. She's the exact opposite of the stereotypical Ms. Welfare Queen ghetto superstar mother caricature, a myth that Ronald Reagan helped to popularize. But Jack Conway wants more cops, and he hasn't said that the War on Drugs has failed, not just yet... maybe just 4 more years of this bullshit... he wants more cops, and more drug treatment centers, as least that was his focus tonight. He's been wrong on the War on Drugs for the entire duration of his Attorney Generalship.

Andy Beshear should weigh in on the Kim Davis debacle. He should order Jack Conway to file official misconduct charges against her. Distinguish himself the opposite of his father, and on the right side of history.

Jack Conway loves Judge Heyburn's opinion, and he referenced KRS Chapter 15 which gives the Attorney General the discretion to appeal or to not appeal. Even Kentucky's Supreme Court says that the Attorney General is supposed to tell Kentucky when something is unconstitutional.

“They've got me surrounded, Sam, I'll tell you what.”

~Jack Conway, on womankind

Jack Conway has completely surrounded himself by women. ½ of Jack's directors as Attorney General were women, Jack's first chief deputy was a woman, he's married to a profession woman, he's got two daughters, plus, a female dog (aka “bitch”). His running mater is Sannie Overly, who is the first woman in Kentucky history to be elected to house leadership...

Matt Bevin pointed out Jack's “shenanigans”. Matt Bevin lambasted Sannie Overly, mentioning that she was deposed, and then she had her deposition sealed because she didn't stand up for the women who were sexually harassed in Frankfort. Jack Conway said that the Kentucky State Police investigated former the LRC Director.

Janean Hampton is the first Black person to run for Lieutenant Governor... though, I do have 11% Black blood, so, with the one drop rule... I jumped into the race before Janean Hampton did. I'm the first Black candidate for Lieutenant Governor.

“America is the land of second chances.”

~Matt Bevin

Matt Bevin seemed partial to giving ex-felons the right to vote... Matthew Bevin would “shepherd” in new legislation to allow folks who were convicted for nonviolent crimes, crimes for when there is no victim, for their voting rights to be restored, and to be completely expunged from their record. Drew Curtis agrees with Bevin and Conway on this issue too, taking a stronger stance, saying that the state of Kentucky needs to explain to ex-felons why they don't deserve to have voting rights. Drew Curtis says that currently we have 180,000 ex-felons in Kentucky who are still on probation... For Curtis, this is the “new Jim Crow”. Drew Curtis was a slam dunk for giving ex-felons the right to vote. Jack Conway said that non-violent ex-criminals should get their voting rights back... so, it seems, on the regulation of drones, and on the restoration of ex-felon's voting rights, all of the Top 3 gubernatorial candidates are in lockstep agreement.

You see? They're all the same! That's why Blackii Effing Whyte is the only true legit real candidate to vote for!

Write-in Blackii Effing Whyte!!!

Drew Curtis was happy that Massachusetts is having an opiate addiction problem... so he can compare and contrast, not because he's happy having a bunch of methhead addicts all throughout the state.

Official misconduct charges should be issued, but that would require Jack Conway to make a strong stand, which he doesn't do. Even Drew Curtis's “both are wrong” position on gay marriage is a cop-out.

“We cannot allow government officials to have religious beliefs that interfere with their job duties under any circumstances, to uphold the law, and that's final.”

~Drew Curtis

Now there's an atheist in Rowan County that is refusing to pay taxes. Just like Matt Bevin, it seems like atheists don't like paying taxes either. Wait... didn't the American Revolutionaries have a problem with taxation without representation, or something? I know I read something about this, somewheres...

“If there's a hole in the boat, and we're all in the boat, then all of our feet are going to get wet.”

~Matt Bevin

Both Jack Conway and Drew Curtis wants the entire state of Kentucky to have broadband Internet, as a solution to poverty. All of Kentucky should be hooked up to high-speed broadband Internet, for free, for like $10 a piece, just like they do in Minneapolis.

Jack Conway said that PPP is implementing the broadband Internet... which is why Kentucky doesn't have any broadband Internet. Somebody is looking to profit on these government infrastructure projects... who gives a fuck who gets the profits? The profits should go back into Frankfort's coffers, just like Grant County does with their Internet service. There shouldn't be any private groups even involved in this. Large poles on top of mountains is easy to map out, and install.

Jack Conway is pro-early childhood education. Matt Bevin, being a pro-home schooler, pro-charter schools, isn't.

Matt Bevin sees the great prideful Commonwealth of Kentucky turned into a strong manufacturing hub since, geographically, Kentucky is centrally located in the United States of America.

Tourism Industry would help Kentucky too, since it showcases our best features.

Drew Curtis wants to bring more technology to Frankfort.

“Slippery slope argument is sort of a fallacy.”

~Drew Curtis

Who a candidate surrounds themselves with, is absolutely paramount, in determining who these people actually are. Are they Lincolnesque, where they surround themselves with varied rivals, or more like W. Bush, and just have a bunch of yes-men sycophantic lapdogs?

A bunch of politicians get double-dipping retirement, or a super duper pension package just waiting on them... for Judges, it's Constitutionally guaranteed, as if they couldn't wisely invest their $130,000 a year into some mutual funds, land, stocks, bonds, precious metals, raw resources, income generating assets, etc.? Please. Give me a fucking break. $80K for not doing one's job.

“I'm not a whore to the state, not paid, nor otherwise.”

~Nicole Naugler

Then there's the waste of having 41 jailless jailers. Section 105 of Kentucky's Constitution solves this problem.

“Outside your wives and running mates, who do you rely on most for political advice?”

Jack Conway: “Crit Luallen”

Drew Curtis: “Social Media”

Matt Bevin: “No specific person.”

Why would you want to run headlong into a one-term Governorship? Drew Curtis asks this, because he's looking at the next term too... but he should aim to be a great one-term Governor, and not worry about the next election. Be the best Governor we've ever had, and stop with the bullshitting, stop with the grandstanding, and the demagoguery.

Joe's smile makes Jack smile, and when both are them are smiling at each other, staring into each other's eyes, with the moonlight reflecting off of their baby blues, on a dark romantic “The Notebook” canoe outing, with rose petals and swans swimming by...

Blackii Effing Whyte is the only candidate who is completely independent, with not being a bitch to a bitch... seriously? Yeah, seriously, Karen Conley, because if one can't even win an argument with a person who is supposed to love them through thick and thin, then how can they win an argument with anybody? By being a submissive bitch to a dumb stupid shitty bitch makes one more susceptible to being a bitch to King Coal, or President Trump, or KSP, etc. I want my Governor to govern independently, with reason, logically, and to have their own minds, and not to be governed by their whoredom. They need to think with the right head. They need to love the Kentucky people, through and through. At least Will T. Scott told us that. He loved us, and we responded by not voting for him. It sounded too gay to us.

While Jack Conway's story about not winning an argument with his wife for 17 years was just a joke, it shows something about heterosexual couples. The woman always wins. Even if Elizabeth is wrong, Jack must pretend she is right, or have to gently disagree with her. I like the relationships where I can't tell who is “the bitch”, and who “wears the pants”... When I can't tell the difference between who the “oppressor” is versus who the “oppressed” is, that's a relationship approaching equality, but for most heterosexual relationships, the woman wins; the woman always wins. The man is the loser. Jack Conway also said that Elizabeth Davenport-Conway was a “strong” woman, so... idk. I can see Jack stamping his feet, and sometimes getting his way, but even with a Michelle Obama stepford kind of wife, versus an activist Hillary Clinton type of wife, the results still seem to be same: woman is King. She is his God, who he must make happy, even if the demands are smart, reasonable, good or bad for Kentucky, impossible, etc.

All of the Top 3 candidates have females for Lieutenant Governors, and they all have wives. Some folks say Hillary was the one running shit when Bill was in office... and folks even say that about Michelle, and Michelle gets higher approval ratings than her husband, and she just goes around trying to inspire poor fat “Cartman” kids to get some exercise, and to help them eat right. Barack has to run the most powerful nation on the planet.

I don't know anything about Glenna Bevin or Elizabeth Davenport-Conway, but I have seen cute pictures of Heather Curtis, and her scrunched up nose, “I'm so cute” pictures, and that's all I need to be convinced... this is another reason to have women a part of the process, so she's judged by her merits, and not just her ass. Heather is a cutie (a cougar cutie at that, what's she like, 40-something?), so she gets away with it... While I maintain my core beliefs and principles, sometimes a beautiful woman can make me question the Universe, and this happens more often than not. That cute little bright green dress...

Heather has had 4 children, and still can rock it out like a college student; Sannie Overly is voluptuous... Janean Hampton is Black, which gives her a superior position, on the highly arbitrary public beauty contest, but she's got a permanently painted on “bitch” face... she just looks mean as fuck, and completely lacks in grace. That's great in war, but in life... having somebody just stare at a homeless woman, and the 22 vacant houses they can live in the adjacent community, and be like... “Sorry suckers. Fuck your lives.” Janean Hampton needs to work on her femininity. She's tough, smart, ambitious, has had a successful career, but she's not lovely, she's not innocent, she doesn't seem to work on her pleasantness... plus, she's a Republican, so to all of the poor Black folks she's passed up... “Fuck all y'all! If I can do it, then you can too. Stop your bitching, and get off welfare, and get to work!”, is her inspiring message. Actually, if white Kentucky listened to that obvious Puritan work ethic advice, perhaps our poverty wouldn't be so entrenched.

Glenna Bevin and Elizabeth Davenport-Conway are both lovely, feminine, seemingly strong, women, but Heather Curtis blows them all out of the water. When I see Heather, I think, she's one of us. One of us. One of us. One of us. Even though, technically, she's not... Heather's of our generation, and that makes all of the difference. I'd feel comfortable with Kentucky in her hands, or with the balding middle-aged white male head of state, who takes care of Kentucky, being in her hands as well. I'd be comfortable with both.

Plus, she's a liberal, and for the longest time, I thought that made one a pariah in Kentucky. Policy wise, Heather Curtis is like Ashley Judd, except only Heather lives and works here, and is raising a family here. Unlike Judd, Heather's a Kentuckian.

So it goes...

Here's a 132 Great Ideas for Kentucky I came up with a few months ago: http://young4ky.blogspot.com/2015/05/masters-132-great-ideas-for-kentucky.html

Pre-Debate Thoughts